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stonks88
Uchiha Uyghur
corpofilth
Reminds me of a song Freak Kitchen wrote in '09 about the black market organ trade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onFPET1BWMA
writermonk
Hello, new Imgurian!
FafaEfafelda
China is asshoe.
StrictlyBull
Wasnt this a plotline to someone in Hunter X Hunter?
honeybrewer
Fuck China and whoever supports it
JacobFoxxx
Are Sasuke and Kurapika nods to this in mainstream anime culture? Asking for a friend
CringeCreator
This will be taken down i bet, shame...
IdMessWithTexas
Upvote for awareness, not because you like what’s going on.
SelfconsciouslyConfident
Both?
SelfconsciouslyConfident
I love seeing if people can take a joke
Bandidodesandwich
This comic reminds me of Shiro Ishii and his unit 731
MeniBothanzWasMyGrandFather
Quick protest on the internet where nothing matters.
velesartist5
Quick comment on the internet where nothing matters
fiddlewheelx
Fuck. The. CCP.
velesartist5
Amen
Ulthirm
You know I thought the corneas was an extreme point to drive forward the comic right? No its not, I forget Corneal transplants are a thing.
hoodmizzou37
Horrible. Really puts my inconsequential problems into perspective. Also, China is asshole.
JorgeLourenco
I’m horrified. This is so distressing to me and there is nothing I can do to stop it. The world is going mad and so am I.
velesartist5
First and an important one is to protest with your $ stop buying goods from China. People react quick when $ dries up
PrinceSamaSanChanKun
As if people in china would buy uyghur parts
BurntHamsteaks
There was an X-Files episode similar to this. Large Chinese group in a big city were in an organ lottery. Win cash or lose an organ.S03E19
ElSuperbeasto
I thought it was Junji Ito for a second
DaLwkiz
Why is China harvesting organs? I've never heard of this...
impidge
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON??!?!
RutherfordNapkinface
Propaganda
velesartist5
Ah the 50cent army is awake
RutherfordNapkinface
impidge
Ahhh.
WibbleWibble
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/10/1005263835/new-report-details-firsthand-accounts-of-torture-from-uyghur-muslims-in-china?t=1626214586333
verityauger
China is a horrorshow. Peak capitalism disguised as socialism. In China there is literally nothing, literally, you cannot buy.
velesartist5
Amen!!!
IdMessWithTexas
Can we get a real life Uyghur Batman who just shows up, kicks Chinese asses, and disappears and the Chinese gov can’t catch him?
WoefulWombat
He'd just be branded as a "radical" and drone shot.
IdMessWithTexas
“can’t catch him” Batman would have counter-drone measures
Stefnos
problem with that is asumeing the Chinese gov wont just kill an entire village in response.....
DriverIRQnotlessOrEqual
Basically the backstory to Kurapika from Hunter x Hunter
SelfconsciouslyConfident
Nice
LokiShinigami
Fuck, you're right.....
urttraz
cornbreadthief
mrladeuce
This is what I instantly thought of
Gnakenheimer
I was going to mention this but I see I don't have to
Pattosaurus20xx
Usedtobeabear
Who dis and what is their significance please?
Pattosaurus20xx
That's a water color depiction of the Detective Columbo doing his "oh, just one more thing" expression before he outs a murderer/villain
Pattosaurus20xx
Oh, that's not watercolor.
Thecooljonny
It's the uncle from the princess bride
BroBummel
Grandfather
Thecooljonny
FUCK
BroBummel
I feel that. Sorry to be the bearer of nerd corrections
windurst
That’s Columbo, he’s a homicide detective from a 70’s show. Not sure his significance here though to be honest.
TheWeebleWobler
He had a glass eye
TheWeebleWobler
He had a glass eye.
BlackJackBananaHamock
Fuck China
TheMightyMoto
Interesting
wazeewa
I know someone who is convinced none of this is happening and its nothing more than a ploy to make China look bad
DoctahGhostly
There’s always those ones. Look at COVID deniers - think it’s a liberal hoax to stick chips into our bodies. While posting from their iPhone
Tarmaccian
They ain't right, but they ain't wholly wrong, either… There's a lot of propaganda on all sides. Facts and fantasy are blurred for outrage.
wazeewa
I agree
jessybisquette
It's worth pointing out that the Holocaust happened because the press in the Allied countries had spent so long exaggerating the horrors /
jessybisquette
/ of which the Axis were capable that it was genuinely hard to believe the reports of the very real and very present horrors of the camps.
shoujoq
Falun Gong are the boy who cried wolf. Even if it's true now, they've made up so much rubbish in the past that their credibility is nil.
PickleRiiiiiiiiiiiiick
And the people saying "but theres video now" have no clue how fucking far deepfake video tech has come.
BrovoFoxtrot
That’s a fair point but the UN are the ones saying so if they’re “being alarmist” idk what to tell y’all
BrovoFoxtrot
*saying there’s organ harvest reports
jessybisquette
I'm not saying we're being alarmist. I'm saying that's why it's so hard to get people to care anymore. They're too used to imagined /
jessybisquette
/ monstrosities to believe in the real ones. It's horrifying, of course it is but life, nature, reality... They're all horrifying.
Arracor
It's not about believing them, it's about the fact that we can't do shit to China because China is one of the big dick countries with nukes.
SmokyDoggg
The entire world is rolling on like none of this is happening and it's fucking sad.
kaitekarue
Cant make someone di something if you cant even make them protect YOU. Most places with the clout to force the issue are 1/2
kaitekarue
On fire too. Fuck. The US is actively propping up and emboldening LITERALLY NAZIS. Its... sad but strangers in a dtrange land aint a 2/3
kaitekarue
Priority if you cannot pull your own government out of the downward spiral. This isnt an excuse, just the nauseating truth. T.T
nessusDM
I agree, but wtf do you do? Even if everyone else was on board with fucking up China, can't exactly roll in there and stop it
BoozeHound001
Short of declaring war and forcefully liberating the camps there isn't much countries can do other than welcome the political refugees
MinxyJinx
Also North Korea remains to be a fucking hell hole for its entire populace. Not to diminish anything about what’s happening to the Uighurs
VerboseDood61
One of my former students moved to China and he got very upset with me the other day when I asked about this. Almost like he's not free...
exosquadwasmyfavoriteshowwheniwasachild
Afraid of having his door kicked in?
Selerox
Nuclear weapons essentially mean we can do nothing. Weak leadership in the West has handed economic control to them as well.
IWasACatAllAlong
Well every massive corporation is under chinas boot, so.
syko2k
The world would roll on in there and fuck shit up if China didn't produce pretty much anything that runs a profit.
itrynottocommentbutyoumakemecringe
China has an army so rolling up wouldn’t exactly be a leisurely stroll.
syko2k
Yeah. but my point is that even if that army didn't exist, nothing would be done because of the money that would inevitably be lost.
itrynottocommentbutyoumakemecringe
If the army didn’t exist then they wouldn’t be the same china, and we wouldn’t have to do anything about it. Know what I mean?
MisterRichard
North Korea has been a concentration camp for 30 years.
alaest0r
Remember that whole "never again" thing? I guess we meant "... But only when it's economically and politically convenient"
NotAPervert
British parliament is actually moving at a non-zero pace. https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/6624/documents/71430/default/
thisisausernamelikeanyothersbutthisonesmellsweird
The world is unbelievable rotten... Here's Dave with the weather
charlie2979
We killed a million people in Iraq and Afghanistan. The people behind the war still run the country. Even if this is bad as it's made out to
charlie2979
be. Why would anyone do anything? And what could they do? Literally anything China has or will do we have already done.
Ghostwish
KirchoffsVoltageLaw
The world didn't care much about Jews during WW2 until Germany attacked other countries. It would take a literally world war to change this
Ghostwish
This kind of thing? Genocides and ethnic cleansing, horrific crimes on a mass scale? Happen about every 30 years. Human history simplified.
TheSongofRiver
We do that with most things. Something becomes news, and we care for a couple weeks, and then it is forgotten by the masses. Its human thoug
TheSongofRiver
If humans had to care about every bad thing that is happening in the world, they would not be able to live. This in china isnt new.
TheSongofRiver
Its been going on for years. But its news now, until the next thing takes over. Things dont get solved. They get ignored. It's like the
TheSongofRiver
Story: those walk from Omelas. We know. Some walk away, some are glad it aint them...but we aint fixing it.
tauntology
China is now so powerful that they can do as they please. Nobody wants to go to war with them. Even those strong enough.
AxelBeingCivil
The same thing happened during the Holocaust. It's hard to do anything beyond offer to accept refugees and make them welcome.
killersoda275
Yeah, we can condemn their actions, but as long as they aren't attacking other countries we can't really take proper action.
LordRevan2584
Because the world need cheap stuff. That's why.
nickwinters
What is the world going to do? We can't invade. Most sanctions will hurt us as much as it hurts them.
CityYeti
I'm not surprised. Happened with the Jews, happened with the Armenians
rossimus
Wrong. You're just learning that there are limits to what sovereign nations can compel each other to do (or not do) without War.
GenStrike
Maybe that's because there's a lack of evidence to support the claims, which are mostly being propagated by a bunch of right-wing loons.
AlexandrJJ
Because it isn't.
ChaosMatrix
They did the same during Hitler's reign too. People havent learned anything.
kingbudo101
Yeah, Because there is no good answer. Go to war? Millions will die.
itsthevoiceman
Average people can't do anything. And elected officials often can do anything. Literally the only thing to stop this is all out war.
MantisTobogganPilotMD
what happened when the entire world learned in 2006 that China was harvesting organs of Falun Gong practitioners since at least 2000?
itrynottocommentbutyoumakemecringe
Not much outside of China.
avet01
They wondered how China managed to import so many immunosuppressant drugs and hide the trail.
FatBastardVegetarian
South Africa? Shambles. Haiti? Shambles. Venezuela? Shambles. The world's not ignoring stuff...where do we fucking start? And who starts?
FrogDelay
USA? Shambles
KaraokeLemur
And, and this is important, how to do it without making a gigantic mess of it. Military intervention is what it is.
SukhoiSuperjet
I'll probably be downvoted, but nearly all of these stories are completely unproven so far. This needs to be independently verified.
ohio311
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-china-rights-idUSKCN1TI236 not verified but considered very likely because of previous harvesting
SukhoiSuperjet
The Chinese government should own up and let independent observers and researchers in. Nothing to be worried about if it isn't happening..
avet01
The thing is. China is likely hiding corruption, where rich people are buying organs from the poor. We being lied to to protect the rich.
avet01
Sigh. The report by lawyers.which listened to 26 witness, majorly from FLG, read documents from FLG and the Trump supporting Epoch Times,
avet01
Said China committed Genocide. Up next, lawyers listening to Nazis, reading Nazi documents say Jews committed Genocide against Germany.
SukhoiSuperjet
Which in my eyes unfortunately is not good enough to accuse a country of genocide. I do believe serious investigation is deeply needed.
PersonalityFire
Phrasing!
SmokyDoggg
And the worst part is even I don't know what we should do. China has gotten enormous, we let it get too big, and now they impose their will
Mokelzwerg
The whole West would have to unitedly sanction Chinese businesses & products indefinitely. It would hurt them the most, us too though.
FromGod1
Let it get too big? How did we let it? Who is we? Is there a unit size limit? At x miles you can't own more?
SmokyDoggg
The corporate West sent all the manufacturing to China for cheap labor, helping China grow. It's our monster and now we're living with it.
JHRD1880
Mass economic boycott. Every single fucking country that even pretends to care about the Uyghurs. Alas we all know that will never happen.
Sandyundertones
So what was the alternative? Invade them 30 years ago?
somethingawesomeandgreat
Invasion of 1 billion person country is impossible
JayEnfield
Not to mention they've had nukes since 1964
Zuzab
What do you mean by “we” and “let”?
oarttam
We let it get to big? They didn't ask anybody any more than any other country does.
rossimus
I hate that youre getting downvoted for being correct
SmokyDoggg
Yeah but our corporations fed it all our manufacturing jobs for cheap labor and big profits, making China bigger and stronger. The consumer
SmokyDoggg
bought all products even if they were made by basically slave labor. It's our monster and now we live with it.
hotchilly
Stop buying products from china!
SmokyDoggg
Already doing it but that's not enough. Not at this point.
SeePriceInCart
There are more then just finished goods that come out of China, there is also raw materials and component parts. A company that buys these..
SeePriceInCart
...and manufacturers the parts in another country will list that county as the "Made in ___". The global trade network is too interconnected
asmallcat
Which is impossible since companies don't have to disclose where components come from. Assembled in USA from parts made in China.
SeePriceInCart
The only option I can see, that doesn't have a high risk of starting WW3, is to get the all the major countries to back a UN investigation
MossyMoose
Hahahhaaha good one... The UN! Hahahahaha...
warmNchewey
Still wouldn't do shit. To forcefully MAKE China allow that would be impossible without global military and trade pressure. Good luck.
SeePriceInCart
Which is why I said ALL the major nations in the UN must get involved. If it's just one or a couple of nations then there's the risk of war
MyPseudoIsAlduinSkyrimStoleItFromMe
China is one of 5 countries that have Veto rights. So forget anything UN related
stauffalopagus
I still don’t think it matters, even if every single country told China to stop, China’s going to keep doing what China does.
JahNoodles
As a Tibetan, we mfing tried to warn y'all. But we can resolve this without Military or violence. Where there is will, there is away.
charlie2979
There were millions of slaves in Tibet before the Chinese invasion. Plenty of rights abuses now, Plenty more before.
JahNoodles
True, isolation didn't work out for us so well, and it wasn't exactly slavery. But if you wanna be picky, what's going on w/ the Xinjian?
charlie2979
Nothing good. My point is that China invading a literal slave state isn't the best argument against China.
SmokyDoggg
on any people they want and the entire world just pretends it's not happening and looks the other way. What's the solution? War? Diplomacy??
HoppulusMoMo
It’s because they invest into countries. They throw money around and build alliances. We sell weapons. Different strategies.
Zilthuras
100 years ago it would have been war, but now nukes exist and do we really want to poke the bear and see if it results in annihilation?
Zilthuras
And diplomacy is no better than a slap on the wrist, best we can do is stop buying from china as consumers independently from our government
Rhythmaster
The non violent solution is to divest and disentangle our supply chains away from china, it will take time. Then we can actually pressure.
AxelBeingCivil
Right now, governments are looking to create a global minimum corporate tax rate. I suspect that'll have a big impact.
debthepleb
It's going to get a lot worse based on what they're doing in Africa. Whole countries are indebted to them because of the infra investments
Shigbeard
Australia has tried standing against them slightly. In response, China has attempted to cripple our economy through politically motivated >
Shigbeard
trade sanctions. Nothing will work unless its a join effort by literally the entire world. Which will never happen.
FatherAlexanderAnderson
It would require a massive effort by our government. Bring back all manufacturing out of china, reorganize supply lines 1/
FatherAlexanderAnderson
2/ and once we've stabilized our own manufacturing and fabrication sources, then we financially isolate China with the United nations.
FatherAlexanderAnderson
3/ that's really all we can do without a military. And the military option against China is not what we want, they will collapse
dragonherder
The thing with all of this situation is that no one in the west wants to deal with China without China doing something to us first as it
dragonherder
could spark a much larger problem if we do.
Isthe4thtimethecharm
There really is no way a country can go into another country and control them. It always makes things worse. The U.S. has tried before
derwulf
See Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistant, Syria...
Isthe4thtimethecharm
Half of south America.
andachairaswell
It's like every country doesn't want to stand up to the bullies in case china starts bulling them.
strideo
And yet if we all stood united to solve the problem China would have no choice but to capitulate.
TerraKnight
If we can't agree to immunize against something that threatens us right now, good luck unifying in the future
SeePriceInCart
More like there is economic pressure and fear of starting WW3.
IAmACyberneticOrganismLivingTissueOverEndoskeleton
There's not gonna be another world war, because of something called "mutually assured destruction" the future wars will be entirely economic
andachairaswell
Yeah. Being bullied back. Like I said
pugdogg55
I feel like the only thing that will change China for the better will be a massive regime change, which will be horribly bloody
gradeD
"We" let it get too big? That's some fuckin serious hubris right there dude. As if our own empire isn't built on genocidal mania. Jfc.
AquTerror
In what way does that relate to the current human rights violations of china?
gradeD
In the way that the US is the worlds greatest violator of human rights and Americans freaking out about China would be better served 1/
Leoncroi
Holy fuck, I knew about the concentration camps, but active organ harvesting?!? WHY AM I LEARNING THIS THROUGH AN IMGUR COMIC?!?!
avet01
Because it's fake news. Falungong has been pulling this trick for decades.
avet01
Note, this is a seperate issue from China may be still using executed prisoners for transplants. The latter is something that's possible.
MrSmilingDeath
I remember reading about Uyghur persecution in National Geographic about a decade ago. It's been this bad long before that, I'm sure.
newKnew
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jordan-harbinger-show/id1344999619?i=1000517866715 good podcast on the topic
skwint
https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=27167&LangID=E
Schadenfreuda
Not coincidentally, rumours of Europeans harvesting Han Chinese babies' eyes was a driving rumour of the Boxer Rebellion in 1899
CaldariBob
What would they have done with them in 1899?!
Schadenfreuda
Weird western barbarian medicine, as far as the Boxers were concerned. The truth of the matter wasn't important, just the outrage it created
CaldariBob
Fair enough.
BonjourMLB
Because it's a piece of atrocity propaganda. With no legitimate basis. It's a narrative being pushed by a cult named the Falun Gong.
00LimaRomeo
Red-hot tip, read something else apart from Imgur.
thewiggins
they just pick a new group when they run out... I advise against protesting in hong kong...
sreav
Somethibg along the lines of the organs being sold back to rich muslim elites. I advise fact checking my statement though i am not sure.
BallsDeepinaDragonscloaca
They also give them the "choice" of either eating pork, or starving to death.
UnsolicitedRichardPicture
Given that scenario, it’s permissible to eat pork for Muslims.
BallsDeepinaDragonscloaca
True, but it's still royally fucked up.
wabitgirl
They've been harvesting organs of the Falun Gong and other ethnic minorities for decades.\
tyrunn
My guess is because you don't read the news and if you do, it's carefully targeted social media
odinsonjoe79000
Hey man I would suggest taking a look at China Uncensored on YouTube. Good reporting and they have videos on this subject.
AgoutiCutie
Love that channel!
Scobragon
Because you live in blissful ignorance.
ComcastLover
Look up the Balkan war. The Serbs were great at forcefully harvesting organs and that was pretty recently.
00LimaRomeo
Did not know that. Do you have a link?
japh
Because you haven't been paying attention. It's been in the news for almost 15 years.
Blutsaugher
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japh
(1994!) https://www.hrw.org/reports/1994/china1/china_948.htm
japh
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1809171/
bigguywhokills
Yeah, they devoted two whole paragraphs to it on page 7 about 7 years ago. How could you miss it!?
erischilde
Yo I'm in agreement here. Unless you looked for it, it's buried compared to any other number of important or unimportant things.
japh
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/china-harvesting-falun-gong-organs-report-alleges-1.603530
darkwingduckInaMiniSkirt
Not on the mainstream news that's forced down people's throat, though. Its not from not paying attention, its from not actively seeking 1/2
darkwingduckInaMiniSkirt
2/ out better news sources. Which I myself am guilty of due to playing too much games or watching Netflix
japh
https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-06-14-death-van_x.htm
japh
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/apr/19/china.health
therealalansmithee
Because all we care about from China is cheap goods
WizzoTheWizzard
The news needs to shout louder
ElRigs83
Because corporate sponsored media won't risk losing access to the Chinese market
Justanotherbaffledking
Because the lapdog media downplays it whenever possible.
seveneljeven
It’s because they can’t verify these claims.
DSREX
No one wants to either kick the hornets nest or they dont want to lose access to over a billion customers. US has given freedom to places,
DSREX
for less than China did just this year.
PubstarHero
Oh you havent heard the best part. During all of this, China is forcing the Uyghurs to make Youtube videos to upload saying "Dont worry, >
PubstarHero
> We're not slaves and we're not being harvested for organs. We love our reeducation camps!" while gaming the youtube algorithm.
OMBO
Because when you eat poor people with a long enough spoon it tastes okay.
SidecarSue
Very profound. Sadly
skwint
https://www.healtheuropa.eu/forced-organ-harvesting-one-of-the-worst-mass-atrocities-of-this-century/97035/
shoujoq
Their source is Falun Gong members. Not reliable. Basically a delusional cult.
CuddlyPervert
I doubt it's about reliability..more about China's power. We can't really do shit to them, even if we wanna pretend we could.Nukes are a
CuddlyPervert
Get out of jail free card unfortunately
LADYZORRO
Jesus Fucking Christ
charlie2979
Just so your aware, not that this isn't happening, but witness/defector evidence was constantly proven wrong during the cold war.
charlie2979
Exaggeration and lies almost every time. They told the west what they wanted to hear
MotherofCoeurls
Technology and surveillance was also a lot less advanced, making it hard to verify claims. We have videos of just about any atrocity
LinusBiederman
You’d really hope people in power would do something about this shit, that it’s been happening so long makes me sick
itsthevoiceman
America didn't go into WWII until after we were attacked by Japan, who did so because of economic sanctions. Nothing is going to happen, yet
LinusBiederman
Woohoo capitalism! /s
auvr
Good thing the council agreed that it's happening, and now we wait for the consequences... Oh, none? Oh.
Ryebread91
just like after WWI
Remmon1
China vetoed the consequences.
Onlyhereforthelaughs
I think John Oliver covered this when he talked about China's mobile execution vans. Basically they can transport the live "donor" to the -
Onlyhereforthelaughs
hospital and execute them on-site in a sanitary van, then run his organs right inside.
Onlyhereforthelaughs
They have had these vans for years.
wongtonpoop
So the East use vans for transporting live organs while the West transport trafficked women and children. How do we stop them?
Onlyhereforthelaughs
Everyone in the position to stop them has turned away from it. China's dollars are more valuable to them than human life.
bigfootskates
What?! The?! Fuck?!
ProphetofEntropy
the chinese published a study on liver transplants, when people dug into the study they could only trace about 10% of the 300K livers.
furrnandovalenzuela
Sauce plz
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chickenboo
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/1332d59d-37bc-474f-8d15-08db1600d725 see no 3
avet01
Citation?
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chickenboo
See no 3 https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/1332d59d-37bc-474f-8d15-08db1600d725
NemoVi113
https://blog.amnestyusa.org/asia/execution-vans-organ-harvesting-business-as-usual-in-china/
AxelBeingCivil
China's been harvesting organs from political prisoners for decades. It's just larger scale now.
avet01
Falungong been lying for years. China literally didn't have the immunosuppressant drugs to hide such organ transplant numbers
AxelBeingCivil
If that's the case, why did China officially halt the practice in 2015? Why would there be a need to halt a practice that doesn't (1)
AxelBeingCivil
happen? Piss off. (2)
avet01
Pssst. You DO know that they took them from executed prisoners right ? So... Where's the disappeared FLG bodies ? Who received the transplan
avet01
Who managed to supply them the immunosuppressant drugs needed for said transplants ? If we can detect the scale of India illegal organs,
mike73
Ok propagandist.