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Hunrah
Are we to believe there aren’t any nutcase public school teachers????
TonyDiethelm
Probably a lot less than parents... Come on...
ArtProjectB12
My wife and I shared homeschooling duties for our son. Surprising how people assumed I must be religious when I'm a godless atheist.
ArtProjectB12
... with a bachelor's degree. My son also did advanced placement college courses junior and senior years. On the dean's list now in college
jessavader
I homeschool and I have a PhD.
Spoofbot
My sister started home schooling because of the shootings and covid
scandia
I had to homeschool because my son did not do well in a classroom setting. There are curriculum resources that are not biblically-based 1/2
scandia
...that worked well for us. However, being a liberal in a conservative state homeschool co-ops and playgroups were a challenge.
EroticZombiePants
Our education budgets have been slashed regularly for so long, homeschooling is an upgrade in some places ... like West Virginia.
linexnewt
Wow... way to put 'evangelical' and racism on homeschoolers. FYI, we home schooled our kids a few yrs in AZ because they were allowing 1/2
linexnewt
ARMED VOLUNTEERS to patrol the schools. Elem school wasn't that hard, but we moved out of AZ, and they went back to school. They are fine.
Etherealvalentine
Seriously. I really don't like how extreme people are getting with this viewpoint. We have all these posts talking about school shootings &
Etherealvalentine
Sheriff's campaigning to beat children, and transphobia, and yet... Everyone forgot all of that when reading this post.
thatisntwherethatbelongs
I am considering homeschooling because our public schools and teachers are awful here and I don’t want my kid indoctrinated into religion
thatisntwherethatbelongs
- my 11yr SD has been in public school at the best rated elementary and the shit she doesn’t know and the shit she deals with is astounding
LostCause97
Not everyone who homeschools is a religious freak. I was homeschooled because public education in America is shit.
ConservationTime
Ppl in my cohort consider homeschooling bc disability support is also shit. If you suspect your child is being abused at school, then, yeah.
DidntChooseTheUwULife
The difference is being responsible for your own child vs being responsible for other people's children. Also you are a govt employee.
morebooksthanmusic
Also being responsible for 1-5 kids is much easer than being responsible for 30-40 kids.
Rovylern
This. So... much... this.
BumbleBeeBeardedGingerBear
Hear me out though, less chance of your kids murdered by a shooter or a 70yr old insisting indians partook in a Thanksgiving feast
BumbleBeeBeardedGingerBear
My grade school experience was being taught the civil war & patriotism every semester & nothing dark or grey like the Salvadorian Civil War.
UngratefulColonial
I was homeschooled my last 2 years of high school. I was still somehow able to earn my masters.
HobbitHouse
I taught some hs kids who had stopped homeschooling. Some were well educated, some were not. It's a mixed bag.
PrincessWasabi
I’ve met some home schooled kiddos and at first I pitied them but then I realized they would never suffer a school shooting
PrincessWasabi
If done well, with a strong curriculum it’s the next best thing to actually going to school. But they miss out on friends and clubs
HobbitHouse
Most home schooled kids theses days connect with other home school extracurricular clubs etc
Brownie19
so - the exact same mixed bag you get within the educational system?
HobbitHouse
also, some of my coworkers were shitty teachers. having a teaching degree is no guarantee you're a capable educator.
Brownie19
thank you.
Etherealvalentine
Thank you! It's almost like there's nuance to this subject...
Affray
I had a few teachers that were definitely intelligent and capable people but had zero place in an educator position.
Wolokos
Mt math teacher was like that. Good at math, passionate about math, but bad at teaching it. She just didnt get kids or how they learn
leonaNoodleBreaker
We will be homeschooling as our district is terrible and our child will have extra needs that a teacher doesn't have time to address.
iTotallyMeanEverythingISay
As someone who was home schooled, I'm fairly confident that I read more, learned more, and did more homework than most of my peers.
zerogenix
my mom homeschooled me because the school wanted me on the max dosage of ritalin and prozac, I was 10
zerogenix
lets give this kid some speed and some antidepressants for when he comes down off them, I dont remember most of 4th grade due to the ritalin
Seekinginward
They’re also underpaid, overstressed, overregulated, and stretched thin on resources. I’d homeschool my child if I could.
Spiffiee
Oddly enough, kids who were home schooled usually out perform public schooling.
TonyDiethelm
I'm going to need to see numbers on that...
CiaranMcHale
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeschooling#Research
Jutana
Some people also do it to mitigate the risk of their kids getting shot in a classroom. Just Saying.
TheoFromSteam
Schools are absolutely horrible places to learn. Ask the teachers.
Sinasohn
Um, no they're not. At least not inherently. Given that those in power want to destroy public schools so that they can privatize them >
Sinasohn
(and make a profit) and thus underfund and demonize schools and teachers, they're not as good as they could be, but there are still many >
Sinasohn
many teachers out there working double time and spending their own money to make sure that their students do learn and learn well. >
Sinasohn
I know; I'm married to one. (30 years in the classroom this year. BS, MS, credentialed, and various add'l certificates.)
TheoFromSteam
If your statements are true then it still sounds like it's far from good? I'm not saying teachers are the problem here.
ThomasThundersword
counter-point. i was homeschooled and turned out way better than the idiots who went to the local *very red* county public school. that>
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said my state (oregon) actually has an annual testing requirement to prove you actually are learning. i always hit at or above grade lvl>
ThomasThundersword
in everything except english. and that was more due to my dyslexia than anything else, i was well read (audiobooks) but written was hard>
ThomasThundersword
also of the like 30 kids in the local group who were homeschooled. only one ended up anti-vax and maga. we hard a much higher number of>
ThomasThundersword
ultra liberals coming out of it. mainly because the general focus was on critical thinking above all else. followed by research techniques.
ThomasThundersword
of course, like any group it’s not like the ultra religious parents and thus kids were in the same group as the one my fam was in, because>
jjtestman2014
My eldest just received a 10k scholarship for being in the top 5% of their peers. Highly capable independent learner. Standardized testing.
jjtestman2014
Vetted curriculum. Spouse and I juggle lessons, but child takes actual college courses when we're too dumb to teach! (msg 2 of 2)
hollerfloozy
I dont have a problem with homeschooling as long as a parent/caregiver doesn't use it as a way to brainwash their kids.
IThrowLemons
I don't think homeschooling is necessary for brainwashing a child but it sure makes it easier to conceal from everyone else.
ClifSkaylor
I suspect there's a Venn diagram for that.
Jdizzle34993
And the home schooled look at this comment with visible confusion.
Imalwaysready
Which is like 5% of homeschoolers. Sadly, the vast majority of people who do it do it for fairly whackadoo religious reasons.
anicyril
I was homeschooled to ESCAPE whackadoo religious school. Public school in my area was shit, the christian school was the only real option
wadatahmydamie
That’s like 90% of the reason they do it
SteveTheEgg
I don't mind if it rains if nothing gets wet.
Etherealvalentine
Yeah and the school shootings and the lack of real history being taught...
whatsisname
And they still have to pay all tax dollars that go towards education, as though their kids were enrolled.
wadatahmydamie
My tax dollars fund roads I don’t use.
whatsisname
I think people might be reading my statement like I'm complaining, instead of stating something that needs to be true for it to be "cool".
digitalagriculture
Good, it shouldn't matter if you have a kid in school, we should all pay for education because an educated society benefits everyone.
Imalwaysready
Such is life in a society. I pay for all sorts of beneficial programs I don't directly partake in via taxes.
zaraYesLikeTheStore
A lot of kids who struggle socially or get severely bullied end up being homeschooled. It’s not all bad.
ArmedandOverclocked
Yes &No. A lot of home schooling is basically an at-home GED course handled through the county or an accredited program. These can be good1/
ArmedandOverclocked
for kids who are victims of bullying or move a lot cuz military. Sadly some are basically what OP posted. The only text book is the bible 2/
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& they dont work through an official agency so no transcripts, diplomas look like they were maid in MS paint. One dude who i had to verify3/
ArmedandOverclocked
was both embarrassed &very upset about it. He really hated he kept having to pay for a decision his parents made.
beaubrent
Homeschooling saves lives of kids who are very often bullied and experience real violence. I don’t understand this meme’s point.
TI99Kitty
The point is all the people who pull their kids from public school b/c they don't think their kids are getting enough religious brainwashing
Sinasohn
The point is that, in many cases, it's like someone choosing to cut their kids' hair despite not having any experience doing so. >
Sinasohn
Many parents choose to homeschool because they don't want their kids learning what the schools teach (aka facts, science, logic).
SomeDetroitGuy
We home-school our kids to protect them from our school district's Covid policies and the bullying my eldest faced for being non-binary. We
paintingagency
You have to admit that's a privileged option to have, though.
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are very happy also that we don't have to teach our kids the sanitized, white-washed history that public schools teach. We have a group of
SomeDetroitGuy
other very progressive parents who are homeschooling as well. We share curriculums, collaborate to hire teachers for things like art and
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music. There are three families who work together collaboratively on some topics - my partner has a degree in history and teaches history
SomeDetroitGuy
and civics to all the kids. One parent has a degree in elementary education and teaches science. One has a degree in English and a JD and
SomeDetroitGuy
teaches writing to the kids. In all, we're able to make sure our kids are getting a very good, very well-rounded education while exposing
BadCompanyIsHere
Simmer down there.. You can't expect that you have the right to educate your children in alignment with your beliefs.
Rockychunk88
Even if you're a flat earther?
BadCompanyIsHere
Even if. I don't need to agree with your beliefs for you to have a right to them.
Rockychunk88
But do you have the right to fill the earth with stupid people who were raised with misinformation as their default "knowledge" base?
SomeSorcerer
I’m more worried about raising children who don’t know better into them. That’s how we get John Birchers and antivaxxers
charliethewizard
My homeschooling SIL once said that archeologists pay artists to create and bury dinosaur bones so the archeologists can justify their work.
GrumpyMe
Has she been watching the Simpsons again?
charliethewizard
I think it would be an improvement if she did. She makes her own toothpaste with coconut oil. Uses it for her laundry detergent too.
Raptorrat
Archeologists don't do that. Paleontologists are the ones doing that. /S
paintingagency
If those Evangelicals could read they'd be very upset with you.
Imalwaysready
She only says that because she is too scared or ignorant to face up to the real truth.
icouldntthinkofabetterusername2
bekindtoanimals
JFC
SlutAtNight
I Know
HobbitHouse
ya, but those kids would likely think that whether formally educated by mom or not.
GlenL
So she's a creationist who doesn't know what an archeologist is?
RainierCamino
Used to have a foreman that believed God or maybe the Devil planted fossils "to test our faith" in a young Earth. Of course he homeschooled
Drix1942
sleepinggreenidea
wantfastcars
I wasn't homeschooled, my actual high school taught this. Private Christian school, of course.
SlutAtNight
…as an Archaeologist this resonates painfully on so many levels…
RealRaceRiotsAreAboutGettingBlueshelledInMarioKart
... Because the secret's out? ... I bet it's because the secret's out...
SlutAtNight
I wasn’t ready to be married…
bekindtoanimals
Do you know George Gumerman?
SlutAtNight
Noooo though I am Canadian…what is this American School of Research?
bekindtoanimals
He is a prominent archeologist who headed up the Black Mesa dig in Arizona. Wrote a couple books
bekindtoanimals
He was the Dept chair of Northern Arizona University
SlutAtNight
I’m in Canada, and I’ll look his research up. Thank you
unremarkableasterisk
Debunked. Archeologists can't afford to pay anybody anything.
malakim
Only because they spend all their money on dino-artists, duh.
SydB
This is a fact. I’m married to one.
ActionJohnnie
I have a bone to pick with this.
charliethewizard
That was my first thought. But as @Raptorrat points out, the paleontologist probably can't afford them either.
palmo
But Ross had a huge apartment in Manhattan and her could afford several big weddings!
sleepinggreenidea
So where are they coming from then? Should we just assume they're making their grad students do it?
OrangeFlavours
From dead dinosaurs, presumably.
RetrogradeLlama
Ridiculous. Those home-teachers don't have BA degrees in anything.
TheFeralDog
Homeschoolers perform better by a good amount though. Would be nice if there was a better standard for it though
acetothermus
You're right. They have a BS in BS.
CelestialSea
Ahh, you beat me to it.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
I'd argue a B.A. should be mandatory for being a teacher. How else are they gonna pity the fools?
andrewgrr1
I'd say they have BS degrees but the joke doesn't even work cuz they actively don't believe in science
Raeke
My first thought. I know it’s not a definitive cross-section, but none of the homeschooled people I know were taught by someone w/ a BA
TheGreatHale
I know a girl who is homeschooling their 5 kids and only has a high school degree with a 2.3 gpa. She of course believes in Q and aliens.
Crowlands
Bugger All.
BonusDad
My partner used to homeschool her girls and she did way better than the public options. Now they're in public and are straight As.
StephenDaniels
Its much easier to educate 3 kids than 30.
zHurk777
*Rediculus. - evangelical home schooling mom. ha ha.
CelestialSea
I know, right? Most of them just BS about their BS in BS.
Dlebful
Is this a joke about most teachers don't have a degree in the US?
Macmhartain
Crystal-ology and astrology, maybe...
RoyalWithChz
My first fucking thought.
airen
Wait i have a ba in chinese n masters in cs so i should be able to homeschool future kiddos?
Cryxjon
"NO, I have an MBA in OAN" -snarky wife of a 1/6 defendant probably
conversationheart
years ago, I had a woman come into my store. She homeschooled. Couldn't remember how to spell "her new last name" - it wasn't a tough one.
HobbitHouse
when did imgur become a place that only thinks you can be competent in something if you have a formal education?
Fullmetalhenry
It's less the education and the lack of following an assessment and qualification system that demonstrates competence...
Fullmetalhenry
Unfortunately, degrees, cerifications, and training are the bars for this topic. So it is relevant, but lazy to crutch on solo.
PWBoiler
You can be competent in a lot of things without advanced formal education. But “education” isn’t one of them.
MisterRichard
If you don't have a ba, in some states they make you use an "accredited program" which let me tell you is educationally meaningless
exlurker42
I mean...so are most accreditations for public schools. They can be awesome or awful.
MisterRichard
They can't really compete with "the bible says pi is 3 and that God doesn't love homos", even when they're failing.
exlurker42
No, but that's also not all homeschool kids. Most I've known were just bored out of their minds in bad districts and got pulled out.
MisterRichard
Most *you* know. Christian homeschooling makes up a vast sea that you do not know the depths of.
MisterRichard
But it is a way to bilk money from Christian rubes
sleepinggreenidea
Oh, so you could be homeschooled, get married at 18, start pumping out kids at 19, and then get accredited to homeschool them? Cool, cool.
MisterRichard
Starting late, are we? Most states allow child marriage with parental consent.
sleepinggreenidea
Well, yes, but I don't know if those accreditation programs have a minimum age, so I made my hypothetical "teacher" a procrastinator