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Jul 18, 2025 5:42 PM
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leviaton
Ya but just because you are logged out doesn't mean the switch won't work... But fuck cloud based obsolescence
Shaodyn
The more things that are connected to your home network, the more backdoors are in the network. Imagine getting hacked and your identity stolen because of a "smart" lightbulb.
MundoCani
An old colleagues washing machine wouldn't work without WiFi.
80mtn
alittleglassvial
Yea no there was one point I was running low on bills and had to very slowly explain to my parents that my electric bill wasn’t the problem, if I don’t pay my WiFi tho, basically literally anything electric will cease to function.
I still don’t really think they understand honestly but that’s also not on them lol
taez555
I bought a sous-vide a few years ago that had a tracking app. It made you sign up for an account to log in. I could never for the life of me get the app to work. Sous-vide works great without it. That being said... I still get daily e-mails from the company.
cousteau
My brother told me that his roomba has complained that he hasn't introduced it to the airfryer yet.
GravyEducation
I had a chef who had one because she was working two gigs so she could sous vide something at home while she was at work. One time she just brought it in for an Easter brunch to sous vide all the eggs
OvertleyBadpickuplines
I.T here, none of my devices are linked to each other. My watch is a citizen it goes tick, and my work out app is the dry erase board in the garage. I purposley go to cashier and not the kiosk if I can. My fridge is either on or off, and same with my washer and dryer. My headphones have a cord and so do my controlers. If any of these bleeps or moves, I will go full Butlerian Jihad up in here.
cousteau
Counterpoint: while bluetooth is a royal pain the likes of which hasn't been seen since printers were invented, being able to go take a shit during an online meeting without missing what they're saying (in the rare occasions when it's important) thanks to your bluetooth headphones is a blessing.
Jaqdakloun
I'm not sure if this is an exaggeration, 'cause an acquaintance of mine was once locked out of his fridge 'cause his internet was out
RummageSaleBubbler
SleepyHollowAppleTree
"What radicalized you?"
GingerGoddess357
Andor
HashMaster9k
DRINK VERIFICATION CAN
diezl97
All the smart bulbs I have will still function as normal lightbulbs without the app, hub, or network. I like the advanced features though
HashMaster9k
Not all of them, and most take at least initial setup through some sort of App or external program. If you don't, they're practically useless unless you're in the market for repeatedly flashing bulbs.
HashMaster9k
ChippinStrata
Love it.
cousteau
A water faucet I can ssh into is something I'd purchase just for the sake of it.
chingadamadrex
Please sign in to your microwave….. your fridge can’t access the internet….. please allow your garage door access through firewall…..
Has technology gone too far?? Yes yes it has. My fridge and microwave have no business on the internet.
I’ll allow the TV and cameras…. That’s it.
Radix865
Just wait till it's: "Please watch these ads to open your fridge: ads playing 1/5...sensors say eyes are closed or noone is present, ads paused"
dohcohv
RummageSaleBubbler
aoshistark
I asked my local hobby shop owner about some upcoming events. He asks me if I have a FB... Ño... Insta? No. Twitter? Nope.
Owner goes, "Oh you must be smart then. You work in computers?"
Lol yes indeed I do.
TimmyTimm
"Why don't you have the Bank App and Vinmo on your phone."
"Because I work in security and I know what is out there."
Waschbaerkoenig
I tried to explain why it isn't a two factor authentication when authenticator and login come from the same device. They outright refused to acknowledge that only one device needs to be compromised to get access, which makes it a one factor process with an annoying extra step... and I was talking to someone working at a bank. It's mind-blowing.
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a1b2c3Cat
Fun fact, sticky note in a secure room is safer than any cloud password manager
Twinklepot
I have a book with so many passwords. Things are getting very unwieldy.
berserk
I had the same thing. Finally started using a password manager, which means I can use long, auto generated passwords, and only have to remember one password to get into the app. It's not perfect, but the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.
Twinklepot
My son repeatedly advises me to do this. I suppose it is the only other option left to us now.
eronth
Smart tech is cool, but not when it NEEDS to be smart. I have a few smart light switches right now and if my internet goes down I... go press the switch like a normal person. They're great!
Meanwhile, I had some smart bulbs that if the internet went down they started quickly blinking to let you know they were disconnected. Absolute insanity. I want more tech reviewers to start reviewing HA (or similar) integration and also loss-of-internet scenarios.
dohcohv
Yeah, my smart devices like my washer just notify me when the cycle is done. I don't have them set up to do anything else. Even the charger for my car just takes inputs from the car, so I set the car to be charged by 6am or whatever and it tells the charger when to start charging.
Whitemannatee
My smart bulbs use an app for custom color and on/off, but go to default soft white full power if you turn it on with the switch
Felimelinesk
The internetofshit website is full of such stuff.
MaleProstateMilker88
Sounds like rich people problems.
Them3OtherGuys
The idea of a smart house turning into a killing/torture machine has been around since automation started making its way into household products. But it's always been dismissed as fantasy. I mean, there's no way an AI could want to hurt a human, and in the end we can always just unplug it, right? ... right?
TheMostModestMouse
The show "person of interest" (semi spoiler ahead on a good show) had something similar in an episode. But the AI kept moving itself from place to place physically by making shell companies and hiring workers to move it's servers when it got found by police ect ect who were trying to shut it down.
HashMaster9k
All I'm saying is I saw "Smart Home" with Katy Segal on The Disney Channel as a kid, and that kind of sealed the deal on where I stand with this kind of technology.
FallingStar7669
I doubt it'll ever physically harm us, the way the old sci-fi horror stories portrayed it. But then we look at self-driving cars, and we see the potential for bad actors or shitty code to end lives. Having wi-fi controlled lights locked out of your control is annoying, but not life-threatening... what about medical equipment? And what about the more present issue: trackers recording your movements and selling your data? There are plenty of ways to be harmed beyond the physical.
LutraLazuli
"Why does my microwave need to sync with the water heater, AND WHY DOES THE LIGHTS NEED PERMISSION TO ACCESS THE NEIGHBORS FRIDGE?"
BillHubbard
I have a HUE and a Tradfri system in the house. I use wall mounted buttons to control them, these are identical to the "old fashioned ones". They connect to a Homey device which is an "offline" home controller. It controls the lights, curtains, garden fountain, sprinklers, dishwasher etc. It even knows the output of the solar setup and can decide to do stuff based on that.
AccordingToYourMom
The HVAC company seemed confused when I refused to let them connect the new thermostat to my wifi. They kept trying to sell me on it and wouldn’t accept that I had no reason to connect an HVAC system to the internet.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Any time I think "I should do some smarthome stuff," I always circle back to "that's just a more complicated way of doing simple shit."
Welliguessillgogetpants
Reminds me of a post I saw years ago. Titled: The future is stupid.
“So I went to my roommate to ask if I could plug in my vape pen to charge. He said no because he was charging his book.
The future is stupid.”
cousteau
Someone posted it already.
Welliguessillgogetpants
Yup that’s it lol
Niagaran
I have a smartbulb in my back sunroom and I can't for the life of me figure out why it keeps turning on by itself - no routines, nothin'. It's a pain. I've swapped another bulb in (with a different name) and it kept turning on, too.
CrabbyBlueberry
How could something this STUPID ever be called "smart"?
ByteeBandit
Those bulbs reset themselves if you techno rage rave the lightswitch a whole bunch. Not only is it cathartic in the shadow of such bull, it's also the solution !
ballsoutflyer
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PauliePlaysPoorly
I don't care if it's not true, it deserves to be.
zerneus
Wiz lights. https://www.wizconnected.com/en-us/products/bulbs
My wife had some in the home office she locked herself out and they have a disco mode they were stuck on i had to unscrew them from the ceiling lol
NepLeet
zerneus
keillrandor
Are you sure you were having a disco and weren't under attack?
Skuggen
I might be more amenable to the idea of making my home "smart" if not for the fact that all of the fucking things are also required to be open to the internet (so they can force you to have an account and route all the control traffic through their servers so they can collect your data).
bassaro
Please agree to our new TOS. We'll be raising the temperature one degree per hour until you do.
prcal
Good news. There are lots that talk to a local controller. No need to go outside your network.
Lutki
You can host home assistance locally, as long as the smart devices you buy are compatible nothing needs to connect to the Internet at all. But if your hosting it locally I would be less suspicious of connecting it to the Internet, but you could also set up reverse tunneling to allow you remote access while isolating you smart devices from the Internet if your like extra paranoid.
GNious
Get Home Assistant and either a Z-Wave or ZigBee gateway, and control everything locally
Colopty
My idea of a smart home done correctly basically involves a local network which I fully control, not signing my devices up for accounts that connect them to the manufacturer's server so that *they* can control my devices.
xaddak
So do that. It's possible and people do it. https://www.reddit.com/r/homeautomation/comments/1d9ffgj/home_automation_without_internet/
Colopty
I'm aware, yes, as that is what I'm already doing.
ProbablyWrong524
To say nothing of how little they invest in internet security.
InfocalypseRising
No, I need my washer to be able to download new wash cycle types, because that is definitely a thing that people do and not an entirely invented feature foisted upon me
ZackWester
for that my question is why not just stick a SD card and have the wash cycle be downloaded from a database. so many stuff is WIFI 24/7 for a product that might have 1-2 uppdate throughout its life time if that.
Dxoh
My brother recently bought a wifi capable water heater. Just... why?
MrRareza
Bluetooth I can understand for certain appliances, so when you're home, it can alert you to errors or it malfunctioning. But wifi? Naw, man.
alcamar
Yeah, the idea was good in general and was fun to tinker with. But without buying into a single ecosystem with everything, you're left cobbling together half finished APIs into a sorta functional unit that never really fully does what you want.
Ultimately the implementation(always online, flaky connections, login issues, etc) just leads to more problems than it's worth by a long shot.
PirateRubberDuck
Then some of them do updates and things break. So you slowly get less and less functionality over time.
IlluminaBlade
PC part manufacturers can't even reach a consensus on how to control LEDs of course we'll never get standards for anything else.
quzar
That's actually kind of backwards. The reason for no standards for 'pc part' LEDs is that it's too low stakes with no larger organization caring to take up standards for such a trivial thing.
gesel
They will be very helpful in enforcing lèse-majesté laws. Every home must have smart devices such as a television, speaker, CCTV system, or appliance to comply with lèse-majesté compliance. Any indication of lack of appreciation for the Great Ruler will be corrected by ICE with immediate revocation of citizenship and deportation to CECOT. Loss of signal will be considered sufficient cause.
VictusVonGuyver
Or they remotely control. One Texas family was raising their thermostat kept mysteriously being changed. Turns out the utility company kept changing it remotely. Meaning the company was swapping customer setting during peak hours and robbing home owners of the decision.
Skuggen
Yeah, security is another reason I don't want anything open to the internet.
M34665
Don't most of those smart thermoastats basically get you to agree to this when you start using them? I know DTE (lower michigan) had this same thing but it was something you basically had to sign up for.
VictusVonGuyver
Many of them do. Apparently this family didn't have the option from the state connected utility company.
duffman3335
My new AIR FRYER connects to my phone. WHY TF WOULD I EVER NEED THAT?!!!
cousteau
My brother's air fryer complained that he hadn't introduced it to the roomba.